god walked with adam and eve in the garden

I have read the account of Creation, Adam and Eve, and the Fall so many times in my lifetime, but I just recently realized that the Bible doesnt say that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. God has, in certain instances, revealed Himself in bodily form. This verse appears immediately after our first parents rebelled against the Creator. To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. Why would God spend time with them, because He loved them and wanted to share His love with them! Whats not fine with me is saying that the Bible says something that it doesnt. I never really gave it much thought that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden.God can and does whatever He wants to do. I agree that it is very possible that God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden but there is no written statement(s) that support this. Tim. Please read Genesis 3:8-10: "Later they HEARD the VOICE OF JEHOVAH GOD as he was walking in the garden about the breezy part of the day, and the man and his wife hid from the face of Jehovah God among the trees of the garden. The phrase "walked with God" first appears in the Bible in Genesis 5:22 and refers to Enoch after He was "raptured" but I understand what you're asking. They may have walked with Him prior to the Fall, but it just doesnt say that. As I stated in the article and numerous times in the comments section, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God, but it is unwise for Christians to claim that the Bible says they did. In the later OT the Temple was the place of God's special presence where he made himself known and felt to Israel. "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.". Im sure the water God supplied was for the animals as well as the people. So it seems as if Abel had just recently passed away. It says that he went to the land of Nod and then she conceived a son (Enoch). I would take them apart and look inside to see how they worked. Maybe this is why pastors and teachers teach it this way (that God regularly walked with Adam and Eve), because they can see from the word study that this was a regular occurrence. I just dont get your argument. constant) communication with God (e.g., the angel in Daniel 10:13 who was withstood by the prince of Persian for 21 days until Michael came to help him). Theres no definitive proof, but the passages implication seems clear to me. In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. The imagery in the temple indicates that it was recreating Eden, indicating that God was present in Eden in a special way that he was not present in other places on the earth. After Adam and Eve sinned, God found them hiding from Him as He was walking in the Garden. Thanks for your question. God called (using a Hebrew word that also means "to summon") Adam to face . God appeared and revealed Himself in many different ways throughout the Old Testament. It is definitely possible that the person in the Garden was the preincarnate Christ. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Or a young stag on the mountains of Bether.". It seems from Scripture that they lived on manna exclusively. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. Gen 18 - Abraham's discussion and bargaining with the LORD (YHWH) Ex 3 - Moses at the burning bush. They are intelligent, rational creatures, capable of communicating and worshiping God. Not all of the time of course, how else would they have rebelled against Him. With that in mind, what makes you say, from the text of Genesis, that the phrase translated cool of the day would be better translated a strong wind? If strong wind is the better translation, when prior to this event did God manifest himself to Adam and Eve in a strong wind in such a way that when they heard the strong wind on this occasion, they knew instantly that it was the sound of God? If you must doubt something, I think you would have to doubt that. I think you misunderstand what was meant by the possibility of God coming in the wind. One of my Bible study ladies commented about the command to not eat of the fruit lest they die as possibly being a mystery to Adam and his wife. This is a different subject. 4. there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. My post simply raises the possibility that He may have used something similar to the whirlwind of Job 38:1. The anthropomorphic description of God walking (mithallek) in the garden suggests the enjoyment of fellowship between him and our first parents. It is a special, peaceful garden oasis God created as a home for Adam and Eve (and maybe also Lilith) where their two jobs were to give animals names . Yes, I see that there are similarities, and I dont deny the possibility that God was present in the garden in a special way compared to the way that He is omnipresent. Could the person who was walking in the Garden have been the Angel of the Lord or the Pre-Incarnate Christ? In fact, they didn't even know what want and longing were! Thanks for your thoughts and kind words. Seems to me there was plenty of interaction & communication between Adam (& Perhaps Eve) and God. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). Adam and Eve Hide From God. There are some who says He came in angelic forms throughout the Bible yes He did but thats through another likeness. On page 57 of Heaven you say Before the Fall, God came to Eden to visit with Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8). This passage refers to God walking in the Garden after Adam and Eve have fallen, but before God has confronted them. Adam & Eve had been very naughty and they were hiding from the Lord!! Sam. You have argued that a strong wind would be a better translation, but you havent explained how it was that Adam knew that this was the sound of God as soon as he heard it. Adam and Eve loved to . As I stated in the post and many times in the comments, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God; I have a problem with people claiming that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God, because it doesnt say this. Maybe it is implied elsewhere in the Bible? 10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden. It does not say that God drove Adam and Eve, or the man and the woman, out of the Garden of Eden. I think there are two reasons why it seems best to conclude that God had walked in the garden before: 1. It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. How many pastors and other teachers have taught that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden? The activity of God in 2:18-22 give the impression of prior occasions of God walking in the garden. 1. Another potential source for this idea is found in the statements made about those who did walk with God. I would agree with much of what you wrote, and I believe Ive stated as much in the article and follow up comments. Part of the commission to rule over creation would have included the need to study it and figure things out. 16 I also will do this unto you I will appoint unto you terror consumption burning ague that shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart and you shall sow your seed in vain your enemies shall eat it17 and I will set my face against you 18 and if you still dont listen to Mei will punish you 7 times more for your sins please not that it is sin that seperates man from god. If used in this sense, Adam and Eve did "walk" with God prior to sin because there was no fracture in their relationship with God. In other words, man had a physical body made from the ground. They had all they could ever want. God then created Eve, "a helper comparable to him" (verse 18). Therefore God was not always with them in the Garden, not as we know it anyway. Thanks for your thoughts. I can see that cool of the day can be also be breath, spirit, or wind. This would still fit with the idea of God coming in judgment, which was given as a possibility in the article. I believe it is very important to know what is and isnt in the Bible. Because they nearly always cite the verse about Adam and Eve hearing the sound of the Lord walking in the garden. Hi Greg, If that suggestion is accurate, then it would have been a physical presence of God coming in judgment, similar to how He spoke from the whirlwind in Job. So if the strong wind idea is actually being conveyed by the Hebrew, then there is no textual basis for claiming that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden in the cool of the day. As I mentioned in my post, I have absolutely no problem with the idea that they might have walked with God in the garden. Adam and Eve as well as other people born during the no-sin era. I agree with your conclusion that we should not assume that God was at Adam and Eves beck and call, coming around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there, or that God spent considerable time fellowshipping with them in physical form as friends do. Adam and Eve's Separation from God . Moses was only granted the backside of Jesus. Yes, Jesus is God and was in the beginning with God, but the part about the Word becoming flesh and dwelling among us (John 1:14) is a reference to the Incarnation that began when He was conceived in Marys womb. For example, the Passover lamb was to be eaten (Exodus 12:8). In that claim, I put your OWN verbatim in single quotes. For example, Enoch walked with God (Genesis 5:22, 24) and Noah walked with God (Genesis 6:9). Here is a link to the Wikicommons page showing that this illustration is in the public domain: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png. Yes this is almost like apples and oranges because our parents are here in physical form but just trying to make a point and the Bible clearly says no one knows what God looks like except His Son . thank you so much. The only time we see Eve converse with God in Scripture is after she ate the fruit and hid with Adam among the trees of the garden. If this is the correct way to understand the wording in Genesis 3, then I think it would be something similar. * In The Garden * And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. Now we do not see You any more. Then let the land rest on the seventh year right? The Tree of Life was in the Garden was it not? They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. Well done! Lastly, as scripture verifies scripture, we see the second Adam, known as Jesus Christ in regular and perpetual contact with the same God and Father. Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. Thank you for reaffirming to me that we can say anything about God and find some reason for or against our reasoning, and that is why we have to be very careful to know what Gods Word says! (Genesis 3:8). You claim the following, which I label as CLAIM #1. This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. So comparing Adam and Eve to children who need to learn to talk, eat, etc. Of course, the eternal Son, the Word by whom the Father made all things has always been present at the Father's right hand. No one is perfect, but when you are walking with God your desire should be to see your own selfish desires die for the sake of seeing God transform you more and more into the image of His Son: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. Because we are made in Gods image, we are called to image God. Was it God walking or was it something different? Genesis 2:15-17 doesn't provide many details, 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. But your claim is based on only such a narrow standard. Again, in Gen 3:24, we see that God drove the man out of the Garden of Eden. Upon marrying, Moses recounts God's command for husband and wife: "a man shallbe joined to . Adam and Eve were the first human beings, from whom every other human being descends. We did not know, nor trained ourselves to do that and now see our own child in the consequences. He was given power and authority by Father God to create the universe and all life within it. Here is the verse in its entirety. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. The impression people usually get is that Adam and Eve were in the garden for a long time, enjoying daily walks with God. Song of Solomon 4:6. Then God gave Adam a rule for living in the garden: And the Lord God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.". God went down to talk with Adam and Eve as usual in the cool of the day, normally they would be in the open and easy to find, but this time when God came they were afraid and had hidden behind some trees or bushes. What was their relationship? I would think that they received one on one instruction from God. I dont recall a specific instance of this, but since the promised land was repeatedly spoken of as a land flowing with milk and honey, I take that to mean that their flocks would thrive and they would have an abundance of milk (in addition to honey and more). So there is no need to appeal to some sort of walk in the garden for them to know Gods voice. Also, when Adam and Eve were created, I dont believe they were automatically filled with knowledge as how to take care of themselves, the animals, the garden,etc If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. The goal of this post is to encourage people to take a closer look at the Bible instead of repeating what theyve heard. Here are 6 things that you need to know, insights that will help you in your life today, in helping to refine the way you view God. ? For Adam to know that the sound he heard was the sound of God, he must have heard it before. Im not sure you have dealt sufficiently with the argument that God must have walked with Adam and Eve in the garden previously for Adam and Eve to know that they sound they heard was God. Dear Tim Chaffey, my nephew and I have read and discussed these verses endlessly. Adam and Eve are walking around in the Garden of Eden, and they meet up with this serpent who asks them an interesting question: "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the . It was idyllic. You may be reaching for your Bible right now to prove me wrong. the Word of God walked in Eden. Who was Cain afraid of? In spite of being familiar with scripture, I never noticed that it doesnt exactly say this. 3. Your desire to keep us focused on what the Word actually says is to be commended. To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. Adam understood what God meant when he was given instructions because God made him with the ability to understand those things. never seen what GOD actually looks like. The texts of Genesis 1-3 outright tell us ONLY what is necessary for our understanding of the events from Creation to the Fall, not of side issues that mean nothing for a proper interpretation of these texts. Abel may have had plenty of kids who would want revenge against their Uncle Cain for killing their father. Ed, Christ exemplified the relationship that mankind should have with our heavenly Father and creator. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the afternoon; and both Adam and his wife hid themselves from the face of the Lord God in the midst of the trees of the garden. It was a choice that they both made in full knowledge of what was right and wrong. What if they were some sort of Spiritual Being as God and his Son were at the time. Useful insights. One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . We do see God speaking to both of them in Genesis 1:2830 when He blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply and told them to eat vegetation. We speak of ourwalk with God, yet dont speak of Him being right there physically. That God would withhold his presence before they sinned, but then come down among them only after they sinned, seems counter to the biblical teaching of God drawing near to the righteous and drawing back from the unrighteous. Hi Warren, If you eat from the tree in the middle of the garden, you will die!". They were placed in the Garden of Eden and given everything they needed: food, work, companionship, and fellowship with God as they walked with him in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8). But its an irrelevant point. I agree that youre right to the extent that believers should be mindful to validate sermons, statements or stories from pastors. Genesis 3:8. No sowing or reaping for 3 years! He saw them sew fig leaves together to cover themselves. Surely, He wouldve given them the ability to do that right from the start. God walking with people normally suggests closeness and intimacy and fellowship. For more information on the subject of Heaven, see Randy Alcorns book Heaven. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. I think too often we read ideas into a passage that might be accurate, but then through the years, our interpretation of the passage is taken as a given that it must be true. Thats right, you are right there with them from birth, not that they were made a baby first of course, as that would take other humans to raise them as we know it! Adam and Eve's "murder" was considered by Jesus to be at the "beginning," not the end, of geologic time. God bless you. So I wouldnt personally address this part of Adam walking with God or not unless the message was ill. Hi Bryan, One good example is Leviticus 26:12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU AND BE YOUR GOD. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? god wanted to walk (live) with them in an ongoing and fruitful relationship and the whole book of Leviticus shows them how to correctly walk with god. Simply quoting Genesis 3:8 does not disprove the point of my post since that verse never says that they walked with God. What if the coats of skin were actually human skin as we have now. God also brought the animals to Adam so he could name them. Randy Alcorn (@randyalcorn) is the author of over sixtybooks and the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. 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