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I know this is an old thread, but.. As far as Charlie and homosexuality, I'm pretty sure "Tex" Watson stated in his book that Charlie was against it. Sounds like what Kato Kaelin said when OJ banged against his wall that night. var part3 = "David at Mansonblog dot com"; Lots of people heard that. I'm of the belief that Rudi allowed William to stay in the guesthouse due to William's rumored large endowment. English Lou Varga, who lived in Columbus at the time, was working as a radio reporter for WHOK in Lancaster on Aug. 10, 1969. I want to know why the killers didn't hear the music from the guest house since it was only a few feet away from main house. There was a problem getting your location. If you have questions, please contact [emailprotected]. He was from El Monte. Hi Matt,You are leaving out (someone still blogging like Ann can find it) that Parent was in trouble at school for being gay. Prince Harry called out media harassment Meghan Markle had been subjected to in a November 2016 statement which, he claimed in 'Spare', King Charles and Prince William weren't happy about. He said he was not advised of his right to remain silent until several hours after his arrest. Make of that what you will or must. I went searching for more details, on Garretson's E! back." Awesome Inc. theme. Garretson, one lucky son of a gun. An attorney was appointed for Garretson, and filed the suit on his behalf. -eston-garretson: accessed ), memorial page for William Eston "Willy, Billy, Bill" Garretson (24 Aug 1949-16 Aug 2016), Find a Grave Memorial ID 199860689, citing Basil Memorial Cemetery, Baltimore . Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of William Garretson (199860689)? Pat goes to the guest house and hears music,checks the door and its locked. I know there is some doubt about the veracity of his youthful sodomy episode. Bill was definitely a handsome man. GOT TO SAY THIS a few decades later 1990's on the internet WILLIAM GARRTSON did make the news again with MORE INFORMATIONplus the new MANSON books says Garrtson picked up the phone shortly after Parent left and Garretson noted the phone line was dead. They say their ghosts wander the area. When William Garretson was born on 25 October 1942, in Princewick, Raleigh, West Virginia, United States, his father, William Floyd Garretson, was 53 and his mother, Lillie Loraine Bell Hooper, was 39. Perhaps, WG was scared of him and was dreading him returning to view the carnage at the property WG was supposed to be looking after. 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"It sure makes you think that death was knocking on his door, literally.". Col Scott,I am responding here to your comment to me on the previous post (the 'debunking thread'). Schreck asserts that CM and RA were intimate. Author of the "More to the Story" true crime nonfiction series. Burdick, the officer questioning Garretson even notes this during the exam. "but at hes age and life experience,it dont surprise me"! I have since found that BG heard 'fireworks'.He probably tried the dead phone and shit his pants.The pets would be going crazy.BG probably thought an LSD (ie: "I am already dead!") It was ugly anyway before the murders. If you do not agree, please immediately exit the service. He killed Parent because if Parent went through the gate and lived he would be able to describe the rambler to police. A Santa Monica divorcee, Virginia Cardwell, claimed that she was having an affair with Bugliosi. var part1 = "david"; var part1 = "deb"; Search above to list available cemeteries. While Charles Manson was commissioning the LaBianca murders to cover his tracks, it also led police to rule William out as a suspect, as the LaBianca murders occurred while he was in custody. On the morning of Aug. 9, 1969, a housekeeper discovered five bodies scattered around the Los Angeles estate. ?Did he know more than he said?Did he know that murder was coming down on Cielo Drive that night? Remember how Altobelli reacted by suing Sharon's estate for cleaning services. Remember that the real killers had not been identified yet.I'm not aware that he flip-flopped multiple times as somebody indicated- just once, and his revised story is corroborated to a large extent by the polygraph. William Garretson's net worth But why?? The night of the murders, Garretson said he was in a guesthouse located on the Tate-Polanski property. On Friday morning, 8-8-69, he told his mother to have a clean change of clothes for him when he came home for lunch from his job at the plumbing supply company. Caretaker. Garretson had witnessed parties all summer according to a wife of his friend.I also heard bg was a parolee! St Circumstance,Good point. Here's where I'm headed---what if Garretson was tired of the clock radio and wanted him out the door. I know nothing of Manson's views on homosexuality. following observations in the 1stpolice report: "In the opinion of I also didn't realize,(possibly I had just read it wrong) that Garretson wasn't hooked up to the polygraph machine when he was asked about being gay and if he had ever had sex with any of the victims. I am 67 so I am a contemporary who traveled west from New England to Frisco in Feb 1968 to witness my cousin at San Mateo State get busted by the post office his employer for smuggling high grade grass from Vietnam to SF. Several images support this. I get into that, let me be very clear, I support gays in every way. On the front door, the victims' blood was used to scrawl the words, "Death to Pigs.". With all of those windows in such a small house, not to mention the outside light, he was very vulnerable.I believe he was there, hiding on the property until the carnage had passed. He is not dating anyone. Mow the yard? indication of truthfulness here because he wasn't running the machine and Ralph D,Thanks for supplying that info from the podcast(I love Brian's radio show). So, He is from USA. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. Together. seven marriages.Richard Helms was CIA Director during this timeline. It is obvious to me now why Burdick believed that Garretson was hiding something. >>>Mary said: this is just another confusing piece of the puzzlewhere does it fit? document.write(''); long bull barrel.Tex used Super X 22 but were they shorts?,longs?,or long rifle? William saw and/heard what was happening that night. 0 cemeteries found in Baltimore, Fairfield County, Ohio, USA. var part2 = "mansonblog.com"; derangedlacrimes. Can anyone enlighten me? he flip flopped so many times on the story that you don't know what the truth is Garretson heard the dogs barking and didn't think anything of it.He also heard the shots fired at Parent, and thought they were firecrackers.He heard a lot more than that.He heard Gibby's death screams, and also Voytek's death screams. don't know.. Matt, well done! Release Calendar Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. 2023 www.lancastereaglegazette.com. But only one resident can say he actually was there. So that's 9-9.5 hours, and he if he sleeps for 8, then good enough internal clock to be calling at 4 a.m. An hour, hour and a half, to call it a night.Now well and truly lastly, re your main question, the important matter isn't what he told the police, but what he told his lawyer. You have chosen this person to be their own family member. Beyond a doubt.He was the reason for the Garretson thing.Anyway, he sued Roman for the cleanup of the "blood stains" on the carpet.Can you even imagine??? The trauma of what William witnessed led him to turn down multiple interview offers with the press that would have given him hundreds of thousands of dollars. He sure looked good shirtless. Parent's informal bio shows no such ambiguity, so I'd bet against a relationship between them at that time.But you never know for sure, do you? He did after all seem to believe that Rosie Tate Polanski was Sharon's child( one of the crazier stories to come out of this tragedy) and then when I heard him give that interview on the radio show a while back I definitely knew something was off with the guy. Billy drove a grocery store delivery truck for many years. I do know that when he was captured the next day, Sat. Please check your email and click on the link to activate your account. I know that WG said that the door handle turned, but with the killing mood Pat was in, I doubt if she would have retreated so readily.Again, if people did return later, why didn't they check the guesthouse? He also committed perjury Roberts Evans of Paramount is a creep and knows moreRoman Polanski is a creep and he knows moreTerry Melcher committed perjury with Bugliosi and Evelle Younger's behestGregg Jakobson committed perjury with Bugliosi and Evelle Younger's behestGay man & straw owner Rudy Altobelli committed perjury with Bugliosi and Evelle Younger's behestThe inescapable conclusion is that a highly trained and organized team of 3-6 MEN armed with bayonets and other weapons murdered these seven people. LOLOL WTF?? The 'report' would vary in loudness.I have a 1938 Winchester 67A with a 27"heavy bull barrel.When I fire a short std velocity 22 with muzzle velocity @ 1000' sec its like a loud handclap.They stopped making this model after JFK was killed in 1963.These guns dont have serial #'s and only the early 1937-41 have the long heavy barrels that absorb the report. Now I'm saying he's a dime a dozen criminal-class punk, who had the good fortune of running into some middle class pseudo-revolutionary white girls. Frykowski was in living room with the stereo onthis was an elaborate stero Roman had set up, it very well could have blocked the noise. The bodies of Abigail Folger, 25; Jay Sebring, 35; Voyteck Frykowski, 32; and Steven Parent, 18; were found with knife or gunshot wounds. I need to find the E! >>>Lynyrd said: Garretson is always portrayed as a cowering child but, he was actually nineteen years old.If it's indeed true, that Garretson heard noises like firecrackers heard shouting and screams followed a few minutes later and did in fact, look out from a window in the cottage to see Abigail Folger being chased by Patricia Krenwinkel AND heard Folger say she was already dead:I'd say Garretson is a coward, and somewhat un-ethical, for not (at least) reporting what he heard/saw when questioned at a minimum.I think most nineteen year old guys, would have snuck out of there a couple hours later (after things quieted), and went for help, or the police.Men fight wars at that age.Who hides the entire night, and says they've seen and heard nothing the next day?The whole thing kinda smacks of cowardess to me.>>>Lynyrd I agree.But I've read where Bill was taking way too many drugs the day before (August 7th) and had a "death sleep" until August 8th in the evening, when he went for the TV dinner and coke.I've never taken drugs, but I can imagine that it takes a hold on you.Also, I've heard it mentioned, that Parent and Garretson did a "gay trist". Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site. When shouting and screams followed a few minutes later, Garretson hid in the cottage, not wanting to become involved, or be another victim. You have to go back to 20th century thinking, in which there is no autism or aspergers, that the mentally ill are responsible for their own plight, morally weak for not conforming to societle norms, as in reproducing, living in family units, owning small businesses and voting for intolerant Republicans and responding to violent crimes by running to the rescuelike a real man would. He had recurring nightmares about the murders, but after revisiting the house and seeing different tenants in residence, the nightmares subsided. So it's as much of a mystery as ever. Pot was $8-$12 oz.Sorry to see BG pass on. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. He passed away in 2016 after a battle with cancer, two years before Charles Manson would meet his demise in prison. Had Ex-Angelino's comment makes a lot of sense. interview he did & watch it. VIEW FULL REPORT . Use the links under See more to quickly search for other people with the same last name in the same cemetery, city, county, etc. I'd want him to move in with me also. something is on your mind: Later, on page 70 Burdick tells Garretson, "I want you to Alcohol and drugs commonly in use.Any housekeeper arriving early Sunday would encounter hungover, sleeping, and/or wired up on amphetamines naked party guests. He later said that he had stayed up until the early morning hours listening to music until he passed out from exhaustion. He had no claim.2)You said, "Atobelli was the reason for the Garretson thing".Are you saying that Garretson was Rudy's "personal gay cabin boy"? this isn't really about anyone caring if Garretson and Parent fooled around Could Watson Have Conspired With Suzan LaBerge??? If the police believed that WG had a residue of drugs in him during the interview, it is possible that WG heard the whole thing going down and took stuff to try to block it out. The following morning he was discovered in the guest house and quickly arrested on charges of suspicion of murder. I can tell you exactly why he did not get out of there to report it.I would have done the same.He didnt know if one of those physcos was still lurking. Manson Blog Considers the Brotherhood of Eternal Love Connection to TLB. I'll say one more thing.Rudy Altobelli, who owned the house, sued Roman for the blood stains on the house.Now how's that for a landlord.Rudy was a queer. Great job, Matt, and some really intelligent and insightful comments. He was truly at the wrong place at the wrong time but at least his murder was over quickly. It was Aug. 11, 1969, when Lancaster resident William Garretson's name first appeared in national and local newspaper headlines. Michael Hlouek-NagleHi Michael,It is generally accepted that Manson is bisexual - at least that was documented in the Rolling Stone magazine interview of recent years. notation by Steven Shannen, the. So Parent came by to sell him a clock radio in lieu of that. Movies. The Aug. 9 incident was one of two grisly slayings committed by Manson and his followers, who were known as the Charles Manson "Family.". After Parent left his cottage, Garretson heard "noises." Rudy Altobelli was living in the guest house when Charlie dropped by. sake of fulfilling my secret dream of being a tabloid reporter. It is 1969, there's action in Hollywood and a twinkie is taking an interest in him in a house filled with the Beautiful People. Maybe Garretson thought it was just noise from a party, but I think that's stretching it a bit.It just drives me nuts. Back in Lancaster, residents were just learning about the murders in California -- and the local man who was being questioned for them. Please reset your password. It mentions a few things that I wasn't aware of. A killer had carved the word "WAR" on Leno La Bianca's body. relationship even if that relationship was just friends. It is always a lie.Charles Watson, Patricia Krenwinkel, Susan Atkins & Leslie Van Hauten were NEVER PERMITTED a defense. As a gay man myself, I can tell you for certain that Rudi was indeed playing on my team. "pass" his polygraph, it was inconclusive in part due to what they thought was Varga said he encountered Garretson's story again a few days ago when he came across a Newsweek article about the murders. Maybe Garretson was suppose to be a quicky, but Altobelli probably quickly figured Garretson for a hick. cemeteries found within miles of your location will be saved to your photo volunteer list. This was his final address. It just seems implausible to me that they missed him. Anyone can jump to conclusions, including you. ,:Charlotte Henry Richard S As rumored, had the But the bottom line is, Garretson didn't I think the chances are good that WG was servicing Altobelli.I also now believe that Steven wasn't likely there to just try to sell a clock radio. So if death threat, why are you writing him a letter asking him to visit? William Garretson was 19 years old at the time of the Tate murders. Interesting as usual.Garretson is an enigma, as is the rest of this case.On August 8th, in the evening, he said he hitched a ride downtown to get a coke and a TV dinner.He hitched back to Cielo around 9:00pm I think.On some accounts, he hitched back with some "hippie girls" who warned him of the danger of being there.I think that's speculation.Somehow, he survived that brutal night.He claims he didn't hear anything.But we all know this can't be true.He was around 50' away from Gibby when she lay screaming on the ground, saying "I'm already dead".In her testimony, Pat says that Tex told her to go to the guest house and kill everyone there.She claims that when she got there, she just had a bad feeling that "this is wrong", turned the knob, saw it was locked, returned to Tex and said no one was there.I've heard some say that Garretson was "in on it". He had another secret family too. 6) was Rosemary LaBiance selling drugs?7) was Charles Watson given intelligence as to the time and date of drug deliveries to 10050 Cielo Drive? It doesn't look too smart if five dead bodies are found on the property you're supposed to be taking care of.A lot of the problem with this case was the wholly inadequate police work. (Assuming this Life Magazine payment really happened).A small fringe group has offered that Roman himself, may have been involved with the motive.I think that notion is quite reaching, and unlikely not something I'd invest time into but, I suppose, not entirely impossible. I wouldn't want to believe anything Garretson says on his own. Invalid memorial. He was presented and identified to the press as the killer- something like "Here's the guy that did it." , Manson Blog Tour 2020! Something about their comings and goings, drug habits, large amounts of $$$ and of drugs at the front house? Continuing with this request will add an alert to the cemetery page and any new volunteers will have the opportunity to fulfill your request. That's a fact. Learn more about merges. Also, his friend, Nikolas Schreck asserts that he is bi. Garretson did not explain why he had withheld his knowledge of the events. We have estimated Please complete the captcha to let us know you are a real person. The LA detective said: NO!5) How come by 11:45pm hadn't hairdresser Jay Sebring (real name: John Kummer) return home to his larger, more comfortable house---it's less than one kilometer away at 9820 Easton Drive. Matt,Maybe WG was hiding from LAPD that he had perhaps left the guesthouse and hidden during the mayhem. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Previously sponsored memorials or famous memorials will not have this option. 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